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Defector and Former KGB agent Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov Explained How U.S. Would Be Toppled by Enemies

Nikita Khrushchev: 'We can't expect Americans to jump from Capitalism to Communism but can get Leaders to Accept Small Doses of Socialism.'

Often without realizing it, people can use a phrase that is described as a quotation by some famous (or infamous) person that may not actually have been said by that person. That is why there are websites like the Quote Investigator. That noted, such 'quotes' may be paraphrases by the claimed source of the remark OR they are obviously the thinking of someone else who shared an insight that may be useful, even if the quotation was misattributed. With that in mind, Part I for today is from the Daily Signal to this writer for MHProNews and this Patch. Part II will provide additional insights, plus other topics.

Part I

Commentary

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We Were Warned by a Soviet Defector 40 Years Ago About How the US Would Be Taken Down. Will We Finally Listen?

Arthur Goldberg | August 05, 2025

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As a young man in the 1960s, I worked with others of my generation to enhance American democracy. Back then, we engaged in nonviolent actions to end racial segregation in America. These activities included sit-ins to integrate public facilities, freedom rides to desegregate public transportation, and voter registration drives to end disenfranchisement.

In the process, we willingly and peacefully accepted punishment for breaking existing laws with which we disagreed—laws that typically authorized segregation. Many of us were trained in methods of nonviolent resistance, both physically and psychologically. Subsequently, we worked to change the very laws we opposed, either through litigation or legislatively, thereby assuring equal opportunities for all.

By contrast, the agitators of the last decade want only to destroy property, hurt people, and seek to dismantle government itself. As an example, these agitators converted peaceful protests about George Floyd’s death (protected by the First Amendment) into acts of violence through vandalism, riots, and looting. Instead of peacefully submitting to law enforcement for their law-breaking actions, these trespassers resisted police, demanded their defunding, and appeared determined to tear down the essential fabric of America’s institutions. Rather than nonviolence being their guiding star, they foment anarchy.

As a mature person in 2025, I and others of my generation recognize how these efforts by so-called progressives (more appropriately called radical leftists) destabilize American democracy. We are heartened, however, by the Trump administration’s executive orders, administrative responses, and legal actions. They seek to restore traditional American values and overcome so-called wokeism within our culture.

Regrettably, governmental supporters (mayors, governors, and local legislative bodies) in so-called progressive cities and states, as well as the majority of the mainstream media, either tacitly endorse or explicitly approve such destructive non-peaceful actions. They excuse or coddle these lawbreakers and embolden them. Numerous local governments order law enforcement agencies to stand idle and avoid engaging these forces of destruction. The net effect permits these cancel culture warriors to create a situation of domestic terror as they loot stores, obliterate historical statues, burn our flag, destroy buildings, and attack churches and synagogues.

These officials submit to a rule by mob rather than uphold the rule of law because they either are unaware of the radical elements embedded within these protests or simply don’t care.

Thankfully, today’s federal government takes a different view toward those engaging in acts of violence. President Donald Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and federal law enforcement agencies are committed to prosecuting violators. For example, 10 people were charged in July for organizing an attack on unarmed U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and local police after engaging in a military-style ambush.

On July 19, the FBI arrested a Cincinnati man after he allegedly made online threats to shoot and kill ICE officers. Among his several posts, he articulated a desire to “#Destroy ICE they’re rabid dogs that need to be put down. … ” and made clear that he is “shooting for the kill” because “#RevolutionIsTheSolution.”

This attitude, reflective of hundreds of similar statements by radical leftists, reflects a previously discredited Marxist-Leninist ideology. We were warned however by someone in a position to know how such thinking could ultimately infiltrate America.

In a TV interview 40 years ago, former KGB agent Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov (who had earlier defected to the West) explained the plan of committed Marxists-Leninists to gradually subvert America’s political system.

Prior thereto, Nikita Khrushchev, first secretary of the Communist Party of the former Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964 and its premier from 1958 to 1964, prophesied that communism would eventually take over America without firing a shot. How? By pitting us against one another, that is, blue states against red states, blacks against whites, poor against rich, and the nonreligious against the religious.

Again, quoting Khrushchev, “We can’t expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism until they awaken one day to find they have communism.” In other words, to have America enter a doom spiral, destroying itself “from within.”

Bezmenov’s TV interview elaborated on Khrushchev’s prophesy by setting forth four basic stages of ideological subversion and brainwashing.

The first stage, “demoralization” is a process of reeducating generations of students to change their way of thinking. He believed this development would successfully occur in the U.S. when the 1960s and ’70s student radicals came to power and assumed roles as educators and business leaders. According to Bezmenov, these individuals would throw out classical education and weaken belief in traditional Judeo-Christian moral values. They would indoctrinate future students (i.e. future leaders) with Marxist-Leninists values (such as destroying free speech and replacing it with politically correct speech codes.)

The truth of this prophecy is evidenced by simply witnessing (1) what passes for education today in our high schools and colleges, where virulent anti-Americanism has become embedded both within the educational system and in students’ values; and (2) the infusions of cash by major business entities and foundations to leftist social-political movements such as Black Lives Matter and Antifa.

Referring to such people, and in turn the future generations of students they would lead astray, Bezmenov explains, “Exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess authentic information. The facts tell nothing to him.”

Continuing, he said, “They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of their behavior.”

Stage two, “destabilization” is a process of weakening the essential structural elements of a nation by targeting changes in the economy and international relations such as infusing diversity, equity, and inclusion as part of the fabric of society or by providing billions of dollars to foreign adversaries such as Iran and Afghanistan.

The third stage utilizes “crisis” to achieve the ends of the revolution, whether it be a pandemic or the killing of an unarmed black man. During this time, “a violent change of power, structure, and the economy” takes hold. It also accelerates the process of redistributing wealth.

And finally, Bezmenov referred to stage four as “normalization” or what we may call the new normal. By this time, America has basically been taken over and lives under a new ideology and reality.

He warned us this is what will happen to America unless it guards against people who desire to bring on times of crisis. “If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, nothing can help the United States. You may kiss goodbye to your freedom.”

The approach of those who have incorporated Marxist-Leninist values into their behavior patterns radically differs from the approach of my generation to highlighting societal ills such as racial injustice through peaceful nonviolent means. Our actions, premised in large part by a commitment to religious moral values, succeeded in dramatically impacting societal norms.

Unfortunately, many of today’s radical leftists, indoctrinated by Marxist-Leninist values, choose to ignore the religious commandments that guided our activism and what President Ronald Reagan referred to as the shared bonds of “faith, family, and patriotism.” Instead, they focus on grievances and resentments. In doing so, they are eroding our national confidence and self-respect while proving the validity of Bezmenov’s thesis concerning the gradual subversion of America’s political system.

Today we are in a fight for the heart and soul of our nation. The Trump administration and conservative governors grasp the impending danger posed by adherents of the radical left. They’ve taken to heart the importance of acting upon the words of Reagan in his farewell address: “If we lose our values, we lose America. The good news is that it is not too late … to restore a sense of national pride and return to embracing the core values that our Founders instilled in the fabric of America.”

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Part II - Dotting the i's and crossing the t's.

Often without realizing it, people can use a phrase that is described as a quotation by some famous (or infamous) person that may not actually have been said by that person. That is why there are websites like the Quote Investigator. That noted, such 'quotes' may be paraphrases by the claimed source of the remark OR they are obviously the thinking of someone else who shared an insight that may be useful, even if the quotation was misattributed.

With that in mind, a few quick Q&As with Gemini and Grok are useful to clarify some points from Arthur Goldberg's interesting column.

A few quick Q&As with Gemini and Grok are useful to clarify some points from Arthur Goldberg's interesting column. Goldberg appears to have used statements attributed to "Nikita Khrushchev, first secretary of the Communist Party of the former Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964 and its premier from 1958 to 1964" as if he had said that word-for-word. Gemini and Grok both indicate that they are more likely a paraphrase, which may indeed reflect the thinking of Khrushchev and other Communists, but may not have been said word-for-word as it is quoted above. Something similar is true in Goldbert's reference to defector and ex-KGB agent Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov. Bezmenov did say as much, but there are those who push back saying that there is no known 'plan' from declassified ex-Soviet files. Neither of those details necessarily kill Goldbert's point. Why? Because they are arguably distinctions without a series difference. Meaning, Goldberg's imprecision in expressing this or that detail doesn't undermine his thesis given the clarifications just shared here.

Some quick examples will make the point.

There has long been Quislings or "fifth columnists" used by Nazis, Communists, and yes, by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) too.

This Q&A with Grok clarifies and underscores those point. The input/inquiry in italics is by this writer, and the response that follows it is from Grok.

Grok, those points are raised as a result of a post on the Daily Signal linked here: https://www.dailysignal.com/20... I'm going to unpack that in a post on the Patch, and have as a drafted remark the following:

"Neither of those details necessarily kill Goldbert's point. Why? Because they are arguably distinctions without a series difference. Meaning, Goldberg's imprecision in expressing this or that detail doesn't undermine his thesis given the clarifications just shared here. Some quick examples will make the point. There has long been Quislings or "fifth columnists" used by Nazis, Communists, and yes, by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) too."

Aren't those historically observations valid and supported by known evidence?

Grok replied.

Yes, the historical observations in your drafted remark are valid and supported by known evidence. The concept of "Quislings" or "fifth columnists"—individuals or groups within a country who collaborate with an external enemy to undermine it—has been documented across various contexts, including Nazi, Communist, and U.S. CIA operations.

Nazi Context: The term "Quisling" originates from Vidkun Quisling, a Norwegian politician who collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II, aiding the 1940 invasion and establishing a puppet government. Historical records, such as those from the Norwegian Resistance and post-war trials, confirm the use of local collaborators to destabilize occupied territories.
Communist Context: During the Cold War, Soviet and Communist regimes employed "fifth columnists" to infiltrate and influence Western societies. Declassified KGB files and testimonies from defectors like Anatoliy Golitsyn highlight operations involving agents and sympathizers to spread propaganda and sow discord, aligning with Yuri Bezmenov’s claims of ideological subversion.
CIA Context: The U.S. CIA has also historically used similar tactics. Operations like the 1953 Iranian coup (Operation Ajax) and the 1973 Chilean coup involved supporting local figures and groups to overthrow governments, as documented in declassified CIA reports and scholarly works like Stephen Kinzer’s All the Shah’s Men.

These examples support your point that such strategies have been employed by multiple actors, including adversaries and allies of the U.S. This historical pattern lends credence to Jonah Goldberg’s thesis in the Daily Signal article, even if specific quotes or details (e.g., Khrushchev’s or Bezmenov’s exact wording) are imprecise or disputed. The "distinction without a series difference" argument holds, as the broader theme of internal subversion through collaboration remains consistent with historical evidence.

--- MHProNews notes that the screen capture below documents the accuracy of the above. ---

This next Q&A with Grok is timely due to the increasing number of politicos who openly say that they are socialists.

Grok, isn't it fair to say that nowhere on Earth has there been a communist nation that actually followed pure communist thinking that was successful? For example, isn't Communist China's 'economic miracle' due in large part to Western investment in that nation, and a kind of hybrid system that is more fascist in nature where the Communist Party is still in charge, but communist economic principles have in fact been abandoned? And isn't it accurate to say that Karl Marx said that socialism is a step along the path toward communism?

Here is how Grok replied.

Yes, it is fair to say that no nation on Earth has fully implemented and sustained a system adhering to pure communist ideals—where the state withers away, private property is abolished, and a classless, stateless society emerges—as envisioned by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in The Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital. Historical attempts, such as the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, and others, have deviated significantly due to practical challenges, authoritarian governance, or economic necessities.

Regarding Communist China, its "economic miracle" since the late 1970s under Deng Xiaoping’s reforms is indeed largely attributable to Western investment and a hybrid economic model. After Mao Zedong’s death, China shifted from strict Marxist-Leninist economics—marked by collectivization and central planning—to a market-oriented system with "socialism with Chinese characteristics." This included opening to foreign direct investment (e.g., from the U.S. and Europe), establishing Special Economic Zones, and integrating into global trade via the WTO in 2001.

Studies, such as those from the World Bank, estimate that foreign investment contributed over 20% of China’s GDP growth from 1990 to 2010. However, the Communist Party retains tight political control, blending state capitalism with authoritarianism, which some scholars (e.g., Minxin Pei in China’s Crony Capitalism) argue resembles fascism more than communism, given the fusion of corporate and state power under a single-party system.

Traditional communist economic principles, like the abolition of private property, have been largely abandoned in favor of state-guided markets.

As for Karl Marx, he did indeed describe socialism as a transitional stage toward communism. In Critique of the Gotha Program (1875), Marx outlined that socialism—where the proletariat controls the state and means of production—would precede communism, a stateless, classless society where resources are distributed "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs." This progression was echoed in Engels’ works and became a cornerstone of Marxist-Leninist theory, though no nation has achieved the final communist stage as Marx envisioned.

In summary: no pure, successful communist system has existed; China’s economic success relies heavily on Western investment and a fascist-leaning hybrid model; and Marx did posit socialism as a step toward communism.

--- The screen capture below documents the accuracy of the Q&A with Grok above. --

These two satellite photos help tell the tale. The largely dark North Korea and the largely dark Cuba contrasts with far freer South Korea and the U.S. state of Florida.

There is always more to know. But for now, let's wind this post down like this. Do not trust those who sincerely or otherwise preach socialism or communism. They routinely become authoritarian regimes, i.e.: dictatorial, as Grok said.

We hope this "Reality Check" series for this Patch and in our deeper dive reports on MHProNews and MHLivingNews bring you both practical and useful insights that you can share with others. Thanks for checking in.

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Fact Checks by Grok-Copilot-Gemini Point to Problems at Manufactured Housing Institute that help Explain 21st Century Manufactured Home Sales

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Numbers of Those Praying and Attending Religious Services or Mass Have Stabilized According to Recent Findings Including a Big New Pew Study

> ‘Endemic Mismanagement of HUD Manufactured Housing Program’ Nom Turner

> Big Govt, Big Pharma, Big Food made Americans Overweight and Unhealthy

> Virginia Bishop for ‘Well-Regulated Borders’ Amid VP J.D. Vance Rumble

> Romano-Trump Bans DEI In Federal Govt—States And Corporations Are Next

> How Republicans Should Follow Through on Tough Talk on Immigration

> NPR=87 Registered Democrats in Editorial Positions and No Republicans

> President Donald J. Trump’s Official 'America First Priorities'

> Rubio Senate Replacement Ashley Moody (FL-R) Gets Key Assignments

> Trump Plan: Make America Safe, Affordable, Restore U.S. Values for All

> Official Manufactured Housing Production from 1995-2023-Why it Matters

> Anna Paulina Luna (FL-R) and Barry Loudermilk (GA-R) MERIT Act Insight

> Executive Orders on Investigating Biden Censorship & Weaponization

> Floridian Dr István Dobozi Strikes at Trump Again in Magyar Article (Another critical analysis - fact check).

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> Why do Liars Lie? Why do those Engaged in Paltering and Spin Palter?

> Controversy-Manufactured Housing Institute-Lesli Gooch-Mark Bowersox

> ‘Mobile Home Values Rising Faster Than Single-Family’ House-Wow Fact$

> Realtor-What Is a Manufactured Home? The Next Step Beyond Mobile Homes

> Orlando RE Agent Smith-Younger Adults Will Need $8500 Monthly for Rent

> Rob Romano-Time To Declassify Everything, Or Another RussiaGate Ahead

> Contemporary Tips from Legend Paul Harvey-Surprising Rest of the Story

> Alert: Is Affordable Housing Linked Scandal at Champion Homes Brewing?

> Report: Biden-Harris Federal Agencies Spent Millions Torturing Cats

> Lesli Gooch Ph.D.-Award, Coverup, Headfake, Scandal? Rest of the Story (Manufactured Housing Institute linked)

> ALG Unpacks Trump Pitch to Cut Drug Costs by Cutting PBM Middleman

> Is there Evidence that God Exists? Evolution vs. Intelligent Design

> Democratic Voters-Closer Look at Biden’s Acts Before Biden-Harris Exit

> Christian Leaders-Signs of 4th 'Great Awakening' Millions go to Jesus

> Attorney John Morgan - Democrat Megadonor on Kamala Harris Campaign

> USA Today - David Plouffe and Dem Advisers on Kamala Harris Revelation

> Majority OK Trump Transition-Mass Deportations-Tariffs- Is it Hopeful?

> Niskanen Center Praises Manufactured Home ‘Cost Savings’ and ‘Quality’

> Alice Carter-The Northern Forum-Deporting Immigrants & Housing Crisis

> Cartoons-Kamala Day 1, DOGE the Swamp, Brainwashing, & Out In the Cold

> The Creepy Line-Peter Schweizer-Dr. Jordan Peterson-Dr. Robert Epstein

> Secret State Miniseries - Fictional TV Series Shed Light on Reality

> Trump Transition Team Asked to Prioritize Affordable Housing Issues